An other vision of the organisation
Some months ago, we have presented Ali OUAGUENI, organisator of two great events near Paris during the 2004/2005 season. A the paddle of this new season, whereas he projects new meetings, we wanted to meet him and to try to know some more about him because he seems to us to be carrying a new vision of the things.
MTTV : Hello Ali, the readers of Muaythaitv know a little of you. In fact, we wished to meet you because it seemed to us you have had a interesting vision of the organisation and we wished to have some precisions on some questions with you.
AO : Thanks, I don’t know if I have a new vision of the thing, one don’t have to be pretentious, I have a precise model in mind and I try in any case to conform myself to it.
You was a fighter, you organized several events (Blois in 2000, at the Zenith of Paris in 2004 and then Thiais in may 2005). Is this history which allows you to position easily yourself in this world ?
It’s certain that’s help. When I began, I was in the same gym as Jo (PRESTIA). I didn’t have the same career than him, but I know really well all this environment of the clubs, fighters, cloakrooms and organizations.
In fact, I didn’t launch myself immediately in the organization, because I managed several shops and that took me a lot of time and I must say the environment wasn’t the perfect one at this time.
What do you mean ?
I mean there was a kind of a kind of blur on the side of the lawful framing of the events which made that it had become perilous to do as much investment on a sporting event. Between the fighters who did not know if they had the right to box, obtaining authorizations etc... The environment was not reassuring! In general, people will see an event, find it well or not, speak about the fighters. The fighters between-them see the sporting side of the thing. But there is an angle of sight which is perceived only by the organizer, it is the cost which an event represents. And the risk is very significant. This is why it is not a question to make the things in spite of the context.
Then precisely, let us come to the object of our question. You seem to have a approach a little different with regard to the relations which people of microcosm have between them. Explain that to us.
In fact I think that today, there is a real faintness. Everybody “shoots in each others feet.” When I said everybody, I want to speak of the promoters between them : the promoters with the manegers, the promoters with the Federation etc...and that goes in every ways with more or less frankness.
And what I see is that we are in the same boat named French Thai boxing. At side Japanese, Dutch advanced and now Italians too.
And us, by dispute us, to take again the picture of the boat, we give each other oar’s blows. Not only the boat don’t advance, people get tired but worst, the ship is damaged. We will finished by doing holes and when it will take water, we will drown.
I think in France, we have quality people able to make things. In Paris there is people like Rachid SAADI or Brice HOARAU, and others who make a good work. I think we need everybody to suceed and especially : nobody will succeed alone.
We can’t send back the responsability of the situation to the Federation. It’s a collective project, we’re all in charge. I only know one thing : “union makes force”.
So you work with everybody ?
Exactly, I do not see the interest to annoy me, bar the road with anyone. All that is a waste of energy. If I do not agree with somebody, we discuss if we do not fall from agreement together and we decide not to collaborate in the moment, but I do not see the reason to annoy me. The specificity of our environment is that we all of are passioned, and that often gives place to passioned debates instead of being reasoned. When passions and the ego of the people are found opposed, the situations take forms "of geopolitical stakes" and often that leads to crises. For all these reasons, I think that it is better to have retreat.
That known as, everything isn’t black, there are positives points aren’t they ?
Yes, there are positives points, it’s true that we have great schools of Thai boxing in France, to quote some in Paris : HAUTE TENSION, Jean MELIANI ‘s gym The FIMEU Gym, PHENIX, MAMHOUDI GYM and others. These gyms ensure a tank of fighters of quality. And then, there is the work that you make Muaythaitv which is crowned supports to the promoters. All is not bad, fortunately if not continuation would have to be stopped right now.
Well done. Present us your next event.
For this event which will occur in VILLEBON, I have a card which is fixed like followed :
- Farid KHIDER vs KAPONGLEK
- Ronald CHEDAL vs Mounir BOUTI
- Faycal AKHALAFA vs Mourad KHIDER
- Mohamed BOURKHIS vs CHALUNLAP
- Gevorg PETROSYAN vs Tarik BENFKIH
- Karim SADA vs Olivier TCHETCHE
- Yacine BENADJ vs to be define
- TOTOF vs Mickael LALLEMAND
- Gregory CHOPLIN vs Yoann LIDON
Explain us that composition.
In this composition, I wanted to distinguish two fighters’ profils type : confirmed fighters like Karim SAADA, KAPONGLEK, BOURKHIS, CHALUNLAP, BENADJ, Farid KHIDER and of course TOTOF and there is yougsters whom are rising like LIDON, CHOPLIN, BOUTI, PETROSYAN, BENFKIH , TCHETCHE, LALLEMAND etc…
Some fights opposed yougters who want to confirm their skills to fighters who are already in place. That’s the case between Karim Saada Vs Alovier Tchétché and Totof Vs Mickael Lallemand.
Is there a fighter to follow especially in this event ?
Yes, with is excellent prestation against Sofiane ALLOUACHE, Mohamed Bourkhis is undoubtly to follow for his fight against Chalunlap. This last stays on a big disappointment in the Superleague, he have to do a good fight to maintain his image.
Do you have something important to add ?
Yes, I would like to thanks Sammy NACERI who is the godfather of the event. I’d like to thank all the people that sponsor me until now : Samuel LEBIHAN, Dida DIAFAT, Joe PRESTIA et Jean-Hugues ANGLADE, without forgetting all the fighters who are the soul of Thai boxing, I want to thank them from the bottom of my heart.
To finish, could you give us some details like the place, the date...
This event will take place Saturday october 22nd at the Dome of Villebon which has a capacity of 6000 seats. For more details, visit the website Muaythaitv in the following weeks.
Good bye Ali and good success for your event.
Good bye, thanks to you.